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Knitting-verse! Let's talk about inclusivity.
I have followed the whole pattern sharing/theft debate and found myself wanting. Wanting of a less moralizing view and one that factors in poverty (inside and outside of the global north). Also perspectives about what can be changed to actually include poor people in this craft.
@flips from a rhetoric point of view, this is an excellent post. I’m not sure it’s possible to answer “there are more completely free, high quality patterns than anyone could knit in a lifetime” without immediately qualifying as moralising.
@kerravonsen @venite I don't think that's moralizing. And I think you are right that they are a great deal of available patterns.
But it's also about access to the community in my eyes. Why shouldn't poor people be able to knit recent "trending" patterns only because they i.e. come from a country where those patterns cost two days wages? I am looking for ways to include those people and not just say they should not participate.
@kerravonsen @flips I get that some people get a kick out of making the same thing together and that it can scratch a social itch, but spending weeks or months of time plus yarn money on something that does not suit me exactly 100% feels like a waste to me. I will never do a Stephen West MKAL. But I will try to help anyone who asks a question in the knitting group and squeal over every finished object I find pretty or impressive or have seen the maker grow into. That’s community for me.
@kerravonsen @flips same, although I agree that someone can feel left out because it’s too expensive. I do hope they don’t feel like they don’t belong in the knitting community because of it, though.
@venite @kerravonsen I am not just talking about trends. But I am just thinking, why should everyone pay the same when the what they pay isn't worth the same? In my community there is a lot of flexible pricing: People who have more can choose to pay more and people who have less, pay less. I have only seen that on one knitting pattern so far. I think it should be an equal access so that it can be a choice to buy or use free resources.
I think that has an influence on who feels & is included
@flips @venite @kerravonsen I'm part of an inclusive knitting community that includes a bunch of designers who have pay-what-you-can patterns. So it's not just the one.
@WizardOfDocs that sounds great! do you mind sharing the community? (if it's meant for that)
@flips pinging @SolaceInStitches to double check that I can invite people to the discord
we also do @fastenoffyal in November/December
@WizardOfDocs @flips @fastenoffyal yes you can invite people and the fasten off yarnalong database is accessible the whole year.
www.fastenoffyal.com