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Subspeaking from an elsewhere convo:
My dude, your anarchism plan to keep everyone in their areas of expertise is interesting, but what keeps us in our areas of expertise is often economic coercion. I may only need a year off, may need five, but under your theory anarchism allows me to quit and do something else without penalty.
So if I need to not be a health and safety officer for a couple years, I don’t have a successor or the ability to train one… are you gonna compel me to stay in my job?
This isn’t even theoretical — I work in mental health. The past 10 years have been building a bad case of burnout for all (because there aren’t enough of us for the demand for service; access is based on wealth; insurers are evil; costs to be licensed are astronomical) and the last 3 years killed and disabled around 10%.
It’s not a job anyone goes into for wealth; it pays badly. People become therapists to help others. But working conditions now are bad. They will not improve under an anarchy.
@CZEdwards This is some kind of instant switch from capitalism all the way to a non-currency-based economic system based on vibes, presumably? Really, the answer is "don't try to do that all in a weekend," but I don't know if your interlocutor is able to recognize that.
@mjfgates That’s within tolerance as an explanation.
AFAICT, it all started with a “not to be mean to anarchists, but you gotta tell me where I’m getting my insulin first” and the response was, “well, we expect people with expertise to want to stay in their jobs and keep doing what they’re good at”… which okay, maybe there’s a year of this, so how does the next step happen without some version of coerced employment?
They don’t have that answer.
@CZEdwards Now, THERE'S an unexamined assumption. There are SO many people who look at plumbing or whatever purely as a means to some end that is specifically not a job. The guy who ran the Pocket Office team when I was working there was in it because he could indulge his Vegas habit multiple times a year...
@mjfgates Right?? If I’d continued to have a career in clean room manufacturing, I’d probably be more financially secure now, with way less emotional labor… but I’d walk away from wafer fab in a hot second if it wasn’t paying me to do fun things with the rest of my time.
Most jobs aren’t passion projects.