had a conversation with old PI today about white supremacist organizing on the internet.
he was genuinely surprised at how much I knew about it, like, "you must be deep into the internet!" and it's like
no, not really?
it's just that once you start noticing it, you kinda don't stop, and you want to do what you can to report it and get it removed
so yeah, that's how I knew about the organizing happening on Twitter and Facebook
if you're white and you use the internet, you have a duty to ensure that the spaces you are in are not a safe space for white supremacists. no, "oh but I like this person and they've never done anything in MY group" -- listen to us. listen to what we have to say. report people to the mods or if it's an ongoing problem, *leave the fucking group and let people know why you're leaving*.
make mods explain their decisions. make it uncomfortable. make it weird.
it's the LEAST you can do.
@hafnia Captain Awkward's latest letter is a long thoughtful answer full of practical advice about how to deal with your racist friends "who aren't THAT bad" etc.etc., if people reading this want examples of what we should be looking out for and what we should do about it.
That is a damn good link and i just wanna pull out "the possibility of overreacting to something is so embarrassing, so inherently mockable, that it’s probably safer and smarter to not react at all." Because wow. Uh. Yeah. That.
Also, realised that the whole "well, they're good deep down!" is basically saying "yeah, they're an asshole everywhere above that, but it's fine actually"
@bright_helpings Do you mind if I boost this?
@estebanm go for it!
@hafnia seconding this, and emphasizing for the audience (as a mod) that mods -- even well-meaning ones -- have a ton of structural pressures not to act until someone Makes It Uncomfortable and forces the issue
and that that's almost always what it takes, unless moderating your community is their day job (and sometimes even if it is)
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