If someone blocks or mutes you, using other accounts to circumvent that block is not good. Ever.
@guerrillarain I would say that was a prima facie case of harassment.
Instance bans are less personal, so I would give them ("you" in this hypothetical) the benefit of the doubt, especially if you were (A) not one of the individuals which made "me" ban the instance (B) have an account older than the ban there, and active. If "I'm" looking at your account tho, likely the other way around. I might ask the users on my server whom you are conversing with if you are welcome to them.
@MrsMouse @guerrillarain I generally agree with you but I wonder how we can make admins' work easier. in case (A) instance bans do not list users that were the reason, it is hard to know (as a casual user) what was the reasoning behind the instance ban. Even common blacklists do not always carry an explanation.
(B) is there an easy way do determine relative timestamps of events?
@MrsMouse @guerrillarain Also "ask the users" should be made easier: when would you "ask the users"? Definitely admins are not tracing every follow and do not check in advance, so probably that would be reactive action in case of a compliant "C just followed me (A) but I think it is a sockpuppet (q.v. Wikipedia) of (B) coming from blocked instance (Z)". To determine if such compliant is reasonable, one would need to examine if (A) is a bad faith sockpuppet of (B), and then reasons of (Z) ban.
The best thing I learned from wikipedia is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Assume_good_faith ; I try to remember that here.
The user we're evaluating here - the hypothetical "are they committing ban evasion or not" user - isn't going to be terribly easy to spot, so the admins of the banning server haver to notice them, which means either the admins were watching for exactly this, or user is committing pretty suspicious behaviour to be noticed.
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I think for (B), if the suspicious user was communicating with the user from the admin's server before the ban, under the different name that would be a good indicator of the account not being created Just for Ban Evasion. Likewise, toot count, followers... etc, if that's enabled. I know it's not the strongest correlation...
@guerrillarain Absolutely. That is an admission by the perp that they've understood you want no contact, but they'll do it anyway.
In other words, harassment.
@guerrillarain In the same vein, having others circumvent it for you isn't okay, either. It's not fair to /anyone./
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