Two questions:
1. Should I read the Wheel of Time series?
2. Will I be able to finish it before George R.R. Martin releases The Winds of Winter?

(Semi-related: Jeff VanderMeer's unsettling Southern Reach Trilogy was my favorite read of 2019; I would highly recommend it, along with the movie Annihilation, to anyone. Very, very disquieting. In a good way.)

@callahad the Southern Reach Trilogy is so good, I'm glad you enjoyed it!

I personally was never able to get into the Wheel of Time books, but I have a lot of friends that enjoyed them quite a bit, so if you're into high fantasy (as an adult, I'm not, so that might be why they never stuck the landing for me), they might be worth a shot!

@hafnia Have you seen the film? Very significant departures from the Trilogy, but exceptional in its own right. If I recall correctly, the director read the first book, once, many months before he wrote the screenplay, and didn't consult it at all during the process. So it's a really bizarre synthesis. But beautiful. And terrifying.

@callahad I have not! It's on my "I'll get around to this eventually" list (I have a hard time sitting through full movies). I'll have to make a point to watch it. :)

@hafnia let me know if you do! I rarely have such a strong reaction to a film, but it really stuck with me. Just visually stunning to see inside Area X.

What was your favorite read of the recent past, as someone who also liked Southern Reach?

@callahad oh! I also read the Murderbot Diaries and found them delightful. The Black Tides of Heaven was also quite good and made me think a lot.

I tried to read Gideon the Ninth, because everyone was excited about it, but it left me cold -- the humor in it didn't appeal to me.

@hafnia @callahad Jumping in to say
1. I am attempting to read WoT for the 4th or 5th time because I know people who usually have similar taste who loved it but in the past I couldn’t get beyond book 4 or 5? I’ve just started book 2.
2. I loved the VanderMeer series, but unlike you I spent most of the movie yelling at the screen because I felt it removed much of what I loved most about Annihilation. Maybe if it had been just a story about one of the other teams going in I wouldn’t have minded.

@dani @hafnia @callahad Jumping in after Dani.

1. I finally finished WoT (on audio!) a couple years ago. It really sags for a few (long) books in the middle. It gets better, but I'd class it as for completists.

2. Agreed. I like the suggestion of another team.

Gideon the Ninth, I liked the humor, but I found the plot mostly tedious.

I've only read one Wayfarers, but it was a delight.

@naga @dani @hafnia

I think I'm mainly interested in WoT for the eventual Jordan/Sanderson switcheroo; what a technical challenge! I also missed out on LotR, Chronicles of Narnia, etc. as a kid, so maybe I'm seeking false nostalgia?

As for Annihilation, it maybe helped that I saw the film first, but I truly loved it. The visuals really stuck with me, especially the tower choreography.

I like thinking of it as a great game of mental telephone: the original is lost, but something new found...


@callahad Aha! Seeing the movie first makes a LOT of sense. Everyone I know who enjoyed the movie saw it first. I have yet to meet someone who read the book first who saw the movie and didn't have a WTF reaction. It's possible that in a few years I can go back to the movie with a fully different mindset and convince myself that it's NOT the biologist and approach the movie as a different story about a different team and enjoy it.

@naga @hafnia


@callahad I'm not someone who always NEEDS an adaptation to adhere to a book. The Magicians tv series is a good example. I loved the book series and the tv series goes way off book and becomes its own thing and it's a delight!

But the things that I especially loved about Annihilation were just ...gone in the film. I felt so lost watching it. It was like, if an adaptation of Jane Eyre was bright and colourful and about an extrovert. Haha. Maybe a rewatch would help?

@naga @hafnia


@callahad I do find the whole book vs adaptation first thing fascinating though. As a massive book fan and a writer, I tend to usually prefer books. There have been a few times where I've actually preferred a film over a book when I've seen the film first, and have talked to people who read the book first and they disliked the film or aspects of it. Example: A Very Long Engagement.

@naga @hafnia

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