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@mlanger Crowds can certainly be an issue. I don't like them either... I forget what the exact number is, but something like 95% of visitors to Yosemite never get much past the valley. The Wawona area is also beautiful, for example. Also visiting in the off season helps. And on that particular visit we took the relatively unknown 4x4 route into the valley, which neatly bypasses most all the road traffic.