One of the things I like about Mastodon vs commercial social networks is that it doesn't TRY TO GET MY ATTENTION every time I open the page or app and offer ALL THESE THINGS I SHOULD BE LOOKING AT that might be relevant to what it thinks my interests are, to make sure I stay online and don't stay away again for sooooo long! (Even if it's only been a few days.)
Never mind the normal "you haven't logged onto Twitter in a few hours, here's all the stuff you missed, and look, people are posting new stuff while you're catching up, you'd better keep scrolling!" Compared to Mastodon just showing you the latest that you're actually following. And if you want to fill in what you missed, that's *up to you*
IMO there are two sensible ways to handle granular push #notification preferences:
1. Use the system's per-app settings for all of it. (Tusky does this, even putting your per-account preferences in the system UI)
2. Use the app's settings for all of it, and let the system just be an on/off toggle for what you've chosen in the app (like it was before the system had UI for it)
Picking up on this again briefly:
None of these complaints is inherent to the structure or functionality of Twitter, Instagram, Facebook etc. They're deliberate UI design choices to optimize for the company's targets. A third party client could bypass it all (which of course is why they don't allow those).
Similarly, Mastodon and Pixelfed and so on *could* implement UI like this, but they don't. The project goals aren't engagement at all costs. And each instance can have its own goals.
Someone could add an ATTENTION-GRABBING EXPERIENCE on top of the Mastodon or Pixelfed code.
And those of us connecting with different software wouldn't be affected.
Or they could write an app that adds it! Though I'm not sure many people would consider that an improved experience.
Then again, people do use Yahoo mail. 🤷♂️
@KelsonV I remember when Facebook called the red notification numbers "the jewels" and treated them as sacred and not to be messed with. Now that their engagement is crashing, they've started to put everything there: random posts from people they think (incorrectly) are my friends, nagging to wish people happy bday, every new post from every group. And of course you can't view messages without installing their stupid app. They're circling the drain it seems
@dantheclamman Yeah, didn't it used to be just messages, likes & comments? And everything else was just in the feed?
@KelsonV yes. For a time they had a Farmville spam issue, but they got that figured out, and now the issue is their own spam
@KelsonV I logged onto Twitter and was presented with a shitton of doom updates and questionable opinions from people I don't know about subjects I have no control over.
It's not that the subjects don't matter, but there's nothing I can do about them - they're Other Countries' Issues. And I have my Own Country's Issues to worry about, you know, so maybe having a customized timeline is what I need.
@renata Yeah, that's one of the other issues about Twitter. It not only pushes stuff at you, it pushes DOOOOOOOM at you, whether it's actually relevant to you or not.
@KelsonV That's the feeling I was having, yeah.
I don't need to be exposed to more DOOM. I have plenty of DOOM. I need things to make me feel better, not worse.
@KelsonV Every few days they push another hashtag of doom onto you. War. Violence. Disease.
I get the feeling that it's tailored to never let the wound heal and keep the blood flowing, so you keep engaging - out of pain, rage and frustration. Things that would otherwise not affect you directly now do, because you've been affected by something else so many times before, that you never healed.
@renata But that's also partly the culture there - people are used to discussing doom all the time, so even curating your timeline isn't always enough if you want to follow people talking, i don't know, astronomy or whatever, because they're also talking doom. And the algorithm reinforces it at both ends in a vicious circle.
The Wandering Shop is a Mastodon instance initially geared for the science fiction and fantasy community but open to anyone. We want our 'local' timeline to have the feel of a coffee shop at a good convention: tables full of friendly conversation on a wide variety of topics. We welcome everyone who wants to participate, so long as you're willing to abide by our code of conduct.