I have mixed feelings on FB closing down API posts (ex. from WordPress, or IFTTT, or Buffer) to personal profiles. It probably will cut down on spam, but it also locks you further into their silo. (You can still write elsewhere and link back to it on FB, but you have to do it manually.)

Then again, isn't that also the argument against automatically cross-posting birdsite to Mastodon? That if you're not actually on the platform, you're not really participating?

@KelsonV the silos have a preferred _mode_ of participation that makes them the most money, but people are going to use what works for them... cf 'cowpaths' vs inconveniently laid out paved sidewalks. Banning the cowpaths is kinda lame IMO. :)

@brion Yeah, it's like they fenced off the cowpaths so if you want to go there, you have to walk past the ad posters and the people trying to sell you stuff and the survey-takers.

@brion Sure, sometimes I want to take that path - there are people I want to talk to and places I want to go along that path too. But sometimes I just want to bypass the crowd and get where I'm going!

@KelsonV @DialMforMara that was exactly why I liked using IFTTT to post Twitter photos to FB: I didn't have to use FB.

Now I have to make 2 separate posts...*sigh*

@nev @DialMforMara Yep...and now they've got you back while you write that link post, and they can try to keep you there long enough to see some ads before you go.

It's amazing how desperate FB is to keep you engaged. If I've been away for 24 hours, they start sending me "So and so posted something! Don't you want to look?"

@KelsonV I know some of the irritation here with Twitter crossposters was that the sheer volume of posts could be overwhelming for their followers, but since they weren't or were rarely on here it was hard to get through to say 'hey can you maybe limit your crossposter or something'.

(And I think with one of the crossposters it wasn't possible to post toots as unlisted or CW'd, which was an extra set of issues.)

@dartigen Now that you mention it, I remember the suggestions to skip RTs and such.

@KelsonV That's one of the dangers of API posts - as you mentioned.

Plus, I'm not sure if it adds more overhead for smaller instances, or more server resource usage.

It's not really an equal comparison in those terms, since it's not like FB/Twitter/etc want for server space or money for hosting.

@dartigen Yeah, even after the last couple of weeks, they're not exactly short of storage or bandwidth.

Cross posting and automatic posting is far from being the same. I happily read anyone’s automatic post linking to their new article, but more often than not I really dislike crossposts, especially RTs.

Also keep in mind that cross posting wouldn’t be necessary if silos were using open protocols…

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