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I think #AlphaGo is teaching the value of settling the position on your own terms quickly.

#thefutureofgo

Crazy and crucial double hane, Ke Jie spending a lot of time on it

#thefutureofgo

Still wondering what Ke Jie gave up for the lower left corner, must be something pretty big...

#thefutureofgo

@upside can you unpack this board state for a non-player?

@DialMforMara The players are now in ko, where they are both trying to avoid "repeating the board position" (which is illegal). But because they *want* to repeat the board position to gain an advantage, they have to play forcing moves elsewhere first, and come back.

It gets complicated because the forcing moves have to be worth more than "ending the ko," which either player can choose for a loss.

Commentator gasps when #AlphaGO willfully ignores a threat.

#thefutureofgo

@upside what did it do instead? (Also, let's sit back and consider the implications of calling an AI's behavior willful.)

@DialMforMara Heh, yah. #AlphaGo decided to play on the other side of the board, seems like to complicate things, but hard to understand for me 🤓

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@upside It's developed insights outside the canon of Go strategies.

I'm watching a stream right now where we're talking about the cultural assumptions that underlie mainstream video games, and we're calling them "of-courses." has flouted an of-course of Go.

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@DialMforMara Should one try to avoid "of-courses" or break them in games?

@upside Depends on your goals. When you don't realize that of-courses exist, you get bland Stevey games like Quantum Break, or actively discriminatory ones like The Division. Setting out to break of-courses gets you Undertale if you're sufficiently careful. It is possible to use of-courses consciously to make a point about the society the player lives in, but then Gamergate tells everyone where you live.

@upside How willing you are to accept the risk of that last one depends on your own relationship to our society's of-courses.

@DialMforMara Interesting. Gamer drama feels a lot like PC/Mac wars, where people begin to define themselves by the games they play, and feel personally threatened when their fave games are critiqued.

Logically it shouldn't be a big deal, but Gamergate shows how toxic it can get. 😕